In my travels within the communities subscribing to reality based expectation, living and understanding cornerstone ethos of Gor I was asked; “How does it translate for those living the philosophy?
“Do you place a high value on beauty?”
Below is the answer to one of the most enduring cornerstones to the ethos of John Norman, written in the series, Gor.
Goreans put a high value on beauty. “If it is not beautiful, it is not Gorean”. This is one of many cornerstones to Gorean Philosophy echoed by Norman. Norman himself made the statement in answering and explaining Gorean ethos vs other kinks that want to compare themselves, or even share Gorean Philosophy in sameness, such as sadism. Sadism is not a Gorean attribute. Norman spoke specifically to this. He made it very clear, if it is not beautiful, it is simply not Gorean. Also to note, He did not imply that sentiment as an only to women mandate, he applied it to all “Gorean”. Norman set the foundation.
“I know nothing about “real-life Gorean slavery among some people in the BDSM community.” The “BDSM” reference worries me. I dissociate myself from BDSM, at least as I understand it. I may, of course, misunderstand it. I wonder if one would settle merely for “real-life Gorean slavery,” because, as I understand it, BDSM is not Gorean. If something is not beautiful, it is not Gorean.”
https://io9.gizmodo.com/5783833/john-norman-the-philosopher-who-created-the-barbaric-world-of-gor (John Norman, John Lange Jr.)
I certainly can understand why folks mistakenly want to focus on surrendered women only as having a mandate of beauty however, both men and women within Gorean circles have measures to be met within themselves before attempting to blend in a relationship of companionship, or even mastery over a consensual surrendered woman.
Beauty is one of the starting points in building a Gorean foundation. Measures to action beauty, as an individual Gorean, a man accepting surrender, or a woman pursuing a Gorean relationship, is an absolute requirement to enable building to continue under the ethos. The measures continue the journey forward.
If these Gorean measures are not met with consensual agreement, acceptance and application, the relationship whether surrendered or companion-ed is certainly not going to go the distance. Goreans are expected to understand beauty and implement it to themselves, and to those within their circle of steel. This is indisputable, and expected of Goreans.
The discovery of beauty that engage both sexes to want, need, pursue, and be part of one another are actually built in to us, we human beings already have the hardware in place. Its not subjective, its scientific. It is natural to our species.
Character, and class you see still counts naturally and scientifically.
For example, women are attracted and desire men that have;
Good grooming, good lovers, moral character, decisiveness, tenderness, protectiveness
reliability, helpfulness, maturity, emotionally stable, economically responsible, humor
caring, forgiving, patience, humility, integrity, generosity of spirit, chivalry, kindness
courageousness, faithfulness, masculinity, authenticity, passion, and intelligence
Men are attracted and desire women that have;
A wider waist to hips ratio, a high voice, smiles: well obviously, happy people are attractive people, but science has also proven the whiter the teeth, the better, less makeup, height, boobs in combination to waist(yes there is a formula), good grooming, confidence, healthy, kind, dresses well, comfortably with self, intelligence, adventurous, a cook( very important to share meals of the same kind), interesting, honest, authentic, complimentary, smell(we need to smell really good) and clear, bright eyes.
Why is that?
Why are men and women attracted to these specific traits that demonstrate beauty?
Nature.
Inside of us we already have the subliminal tags to draw us to what we find beautiful, what, or who we should be with by our biological and natural hardware. Intelligence, and communication mixes in to engage our unique natural biological framework to form valuable relationships around us.
We are incredibly complex, and yet able to relate to our natural partners, and or surrendered property utilizing this hardware within us. Sometimes we choose to ignore it, choose to fault out. That is a choice in defiance of who we are, but because we are given free will, we have the right to deny who we are biologically, by choice of free will.
Some Gorean men don’t even participate in accepting consensual surrendered women. Many are out there companion-ed, and living their lives. Some are not even involved with women at all, they are just living on their own enjoying life. Surrendered women are simply a consequence to men who are Gorean. Those who lead will always find those who want to follow them in their midst.
“Are most Gorean women slaves?” she asked.
“No,” I said, “indeed, statistically, in those parts of Gor which I am familiar, very few. Commonly only one woman in say, forty or fifty is a slave. This varies somewhat, of course, from city to city.
Beasts of Gor
Men of value, and character have a leg above other men who deny their value, and character, in understanding the nature of women. Goreans, men in particular know how deep women are, and how to develop and continue to explore the depth of their beauty.
When Goreans sit back and look at the mother of their children, examine the woman they love, evaluate the man they are with; no book or no quotes can show them what they know will strength those they love by foundations under our ethos. A Goreans nature when developed correctly and purely answers this easily. We already have access to the built in hardware in ourselves, we only have to choose by free will to respond to it or not.
“I cannot know well the nature of your feelings,” I said, “but I know, and well, that women are deep as well as beautiful.” Explorers
Goreans must silence the misinformation, climb the mountains of truth, and spend the time we need to become. Half pieces, broken people know they need to heal, renew, and become again before pursuing complex relationships and ethos. To do other wise is simply selfish, and destructive in nature. Broken is not beautiful.
If a man struggles with understanding his natural biological self, then he should not be pursing a relationship with a woman on any level until he can tap into that intelligence within himself. How reckless would it be for a man to simply want a woman to want her, and understand nothing about sheltering her, caring for her, or allowing her consensual surrender as an ignorant person in her life.
The exact same concept goes for women, how dare they lay themselves at the feet of men, less than. How dare they pursue men as a companion when they have no concept who they are. How beneath and selfish they are to spend others time, and consideration knowing they are not fully able. Broken is not beautiful.
We as a community have seen men and women who are reckless with many different relationships, some have left vulnerable children behind, some have been criminally charged, others have escaped such radical police intervention, and yet others have been splashed in media with very loose connections to Gorean ethos. All irresponsible, and incapable. Goreans do not spend their time, or assets supporting those outside of decency.
Men are certainly mistaken if they think they can lead, without leadership. Women are mistaken if they think they can follow a man, without leadership. Broken concepts, and foundations are not beautiful. Half assed, half done, half baked? None of these things are successful nor do they even taste good in our mouths.
Some have argued with the quote below,
“Only a fool,” I said, “would buy a woman clothed.” Outlaw of Gor
It supposes that men who have companion-ed, who have picked women in clothing are foolish. In the context you sen the quote out, it is inaccurate. Goreans in today’s world would look stupid walking around with a nude chick, or trying to buy a woman with cash on hand. It is foolish and illegal. Again Goreans do not live chattel slavery. We engage in consensual surrender from property. Not just any property, beautiful property.
Lets not forget, people who have no concept of Gorean ethos are afraid of it. It is not necessary to hoist yourself in the public eye crying out, “I am Gorean!” with your name, address, telephone number, and real life picture to prove validity. Heck next we will have a leather dude on you-tube demanding to see a wife, or consensual surrendered woman as proof Goreans exist simply because he has never witnessed Goreans himself. (Oh wait, that might have happened already, oops.)
Unless you want someone you don’t know to fall across your websites, social media, and judge you inaccurately, perhaps even calling child protection because you are moron and let minors near sexually charged images all for the sake of calling yourself Gorean. Selfish. Certainly not capable of putting a household, or children ahead of your own needs. Their best interest and all that.
And well, Lets face it, a 65 year old woman or man kneeling nude isn’t for everyone. No, it is not foolish being part of woman who is clothed, it is wise in today’s times to reserve your family dynamic to those within the circle of your steel. Build the walls, I say. Build the gulches, the time has come.
Men who are looking for value, surrender, or a specific type of woman certainly would get no long term mileage from a woman stripping her immediately. Like onions, women have layers, lovely wonderful, special, amazing pieces that can be taken slowly off. A man who understands his leadership, mastery of himself, knows how to find those answers. He isn’t incapable of controlling his sexuality, he has mastered himself, and women around him. A fool would expect immediate results from a woman. Careless, and selfish, unable to build anything of value.
And this has been used to argue,
“The collar does not diminish a woman’s vanity; indeed, it may increase it, perhaps to her surprise, for not every woman is found worth collaring.” Rebels of Gor
Not every beautiful woman needs to be or can be collared. In fact in reality a Gorean does not even need to own a woman in this sense. We, as Goreans do not enslave people against their will, why that is just BDSM role-play, and games. In a world where safe words are necessary, Goreans are absent.
Norman does not want BDSM associated with his books, his Philosophy.
“I know nothing about “real-life Gorean slavery among some people in the BDSM community.” The “BDSM” reference worries me. I dissociate myself from BDSM, at least as I understand it. I may, of course, misunderstand it. I wonder if one would settle merely for “real-life Gorean slavery,” because, as I understand it, BDSM is not Gorean. If something is not beautiful, it is not Gorean.” John Norman
To start from the beginning;
“How does it translate for those living the philosophy?. Do you place a high value on beauty?”
Absolutely Goreans put a high value on beauty. “If it is not beautiful, it is not Gorean”. This is a cornerstone to Gorean Philosophy echoed by Norman.
Beauty is an extremely important asset, and further founding stone to Goreans, and not because it comes from a plastic container in its application, measurements in a waist size, physicality, but because Goreans require it to pursue the Philosophy itself.
Nyre
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“Goreans do not spend their time, or assets supporting those outside of decency”.
Such a simple statement – the value of which will be completely lost on those who lack honour, or integrity. Who live a life of deceit or pretence.
The concept of ‘moral integrity’ flies so high over some, that it is invisible – lost in the mire and ‘chains’ of their own weakness and inhibitions. Incapable of rising above the base, the ugly. and the dishonest.
“Goreans do not spend their time, or assets supporting those outside of decency”.
A simple truth that those who lack ‘moral integrity’ will never fully understand, or come to terms with.
I feel like I hear my gultch calling more and more these days. Far far away from the angry people who are littering the streets.